nobody has achieved the Full Berry that includes all stat categories (2nd-5th assists, Callahan, Pull). Hadrian, Al and I missed it by only the Callahan in weeks 1, 9, 7. But this week it was so much closer as Higgins only missed by a drop, and I only missed by the pull.
As discussed here an S. Berry (henceforth, Berry) is a metric unit of measure of Parody. It requires a player to perfectly encompass Parity in their play, such that they are awarded at least one (1) in each statistic for a week. This includes:
Goal
Assist
Second Assist
Defense
Throw
Catch
Throw Away
Thrown Drop
Drop
To be awarded a Berry, one must be a pecular (but very Parity) mix of great and terrible all at once.
Owen Lumley has proposed a new Berry, a Full Berry, where one must also have a Callahan, a Pull and have at least 1 of the 3rd, 4th and 5th assists that the app tracks. These are the so-called "hidden" stats that we have data on but do not publish on the Parity app's web interface, because it's a lot of clutter and noise.
I move to strike this motion from proceedings, as the so-called "Full Berry" should be named after:
The first person to be awarded the feat;
The first person to be awarded the feat, after it has been proposed that such a feat has significance.
Of note, the S. Berry has been done before, but the first person to note its potential significance was Simon Berry, and he did so on a week where he earned one, thus the naming of the statistic.
As such, we can look through past numbers to see if it has been done before (unlikely) and award it, or eagerly await the day where someone earns the naming rights to such a coveted statistical achievement. Until such time I believe this (potential) statistic should remain nameless until rightfully claimed.
It's a bit like the Sword in the Stone. I am sure that in due time a worthy candidate will step forward to claim this prize.
EDIT: I think it's important to note that calling it a Full Berry doesn't even make sense. He's incapable of catching his D's and will never score a Callahan, and no one in their right mind will let him pull. It's a stat beyond reach for Simon Berry!
To be fair, I have caught a Callahan, I can pull, and catch my Ds. As there are other people who prefer to pull I do not, also why catch my D when it's so satisfying to smack it to the ground
All D's are assumed to be caught or not-caught but we can't know the state of the D until it is observed (Schrodinger's Ds thought experiment), and thus far I have only seen you crush Ds (and occasionally tip them to receivers). I can only conclude you will continue to do this until it is demonstrated otherwise!
The player closest to 1 decaberry is Tervor Ryan who needs 3 more thrown drops and 4 more drops (doable). Given play time and league statistics, we can also calculate how many Berrys the league generates over time as measured in kBh.
EDIT: my B, Hadrian can drop it 4 times over the last 2 games to rack up 1 decaberry, which is a much smaller hill to climb than Trevor Ryan.
I think I found the best way to summarize it: An S.Berry is a bit like self-congratulatory slapstick comedy. You need to cut well, score, move the frisbee and play good D. But you also need to barf the disk all over the field. Most importantly, you have to pat yourself on the back for a job well done.
...which means that this thread encompasses all that is good and terrible in Parity forum posts: a witty intro, a compliment to at least one specific player, backed up by stats, digs deeper for more supportive stats, too many stats so eyes begin to glaze over, references to former posts in order to understand what is being mocked, and crossing the line in heckling of a player(s). So, yes, this would be a Thread Berry. The Full Thread Berry would include an algorithm suggested in order to preserve the integrity of the analysis, most likely proposed by Owen coz that guy wants all the berries.
... would go here if the forum handled fixed width text and line spacing gracefully, but it doesn't. Also, I can't delete the post, as the delete link 404's for me every time.
So this is a placeholder where a really funny joke should be, but isn't.
Scott Higgins
Tue, 2017-04-18 09:49
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But don't let that distract you
from the fact that if Brent had one less threwdrop he'd have scored exactly one S.Berry, no more, no less.
Congrats, I guess, to Spearin and Owen who recorded very unremarkable S.Berries.
Sebastien Belanger
Tue, 2017-04-18 09:51
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Apparently Owen and Spearin
Apparently Owen and Spearin put up some Berries of their own. Perhaps pulling a Berry is not as hard as originally thought...
Owen Lumley
Tue, 2017-04-18 11:51
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but still,
nobody has achieved the Full Berry that includes all stat categories (2nd-5th assists, Callahan, Pull). Hadrian, Al and I missed it by only the Callahan in weeks 1, 9, 7. But this week it was so much closer as Higgins only missed by a drop, and I only missed by the pull.
Carrie-Anne Whyte
Tue, 2017-04-18 11:48
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What is...
What is a berry? If not a delicious fruit?
Christopher Keates
Tue, 2017-04-18 12:16
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Quick Primer: The S. Berry.
As discussed here an S. Berry (henceforth, Berry) is a metric unit of measure of Parody. It requires a player to perfectly encompass Parity in their play, such that they are awarded at least one (1) in each statistic for a week. This includes:
To be awarded a Berry, one must be a pecular (but very Parity) mix of great and terrible all at once.
Owen Lumley has proposed a new Berry, a Full Berry, where one must also have a Callahan, a Pull and have at least 1 of the 3rd, 4th and 5th assists that the app tracks. These are the so-called "hidden" stats that we have data on but do not publish on the Parity app's web interface, because it's a lot of clutter and noise.
I move to strike this motion from proceedings, as the so-called "Full Berry" should be named after:
Of note, the S. Berry has been done before, but the first person to note its potential significance was Simon Berry, and he did so on a week where he earned one, thus the naming of the statistic.
As such, we can look through past numbers to see if it has been done before (unlikely) and award it, or eagerly await the day where someone earns the naming rights to such a coveted statistical achievement. Until such time I believe this (potential) statistic should remain nameless until rightfully claimed.
It's a bit like the Sword in the Stone. I am sure that in due time a worthy candidate will step forward to claim this prize.
EDIT: I think it's important to note that calling it a Full Berry doesn't even make sense. He's incapable of catching his D's and will never score a Callahan, and no one in their right mind will let him pull. It's a stat beyond reach for Simon Berry!
Simon Berry
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:17
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To be fair, I have caught a
To be fair, I have caught a Callahan, I can pull, and catch my Ds. As there are other people who prefer to pull I do not, also why catch my D when it's so satisfying to smack it to the ground
Christopher Keates
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:53
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I have never observed any of this.
All D's are assumed to be caught or not-caught but we can't know the state of the D until it is observed (Schrodinger's Ds thought experiment), and thus far I have only seen you crush Ds (and occasionally tip them to receivers). I can only conclude you will continue to do this until it is demonstrated otherwise!
Simon Berry
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:58
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Part of me wants to keep not
Part of me wants to keep not catching Ds to give you a stroke on the sideline
Christopher Keates
Tue, 2017-04-18 14:02
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What part of you wants to keep dropping my throws?
There's a thin line between schadenfreude and sadism and I think you are flirting with it.
Simon Berry
Tue, 2017-04-18 14:07
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Not intentionally
I am not trying to drop them, it just seems like an unwritten law, I have to drop at least one per game, and it will be in the end zone
Jason Fraser
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:19
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Well said Keates.
Simon actually only has 1 berry, in week 1. Much like myself, in many weeks he doesn't even have enough throw attempts to get all of A, AA, TA and TD!
I feel like a true Berry should have a maximum number of throw attempts.
Hadrian Mertins...
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:43
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Almost a triple
I actually almost had a Triple Berry! Next time I'll be sure to throw one more away and get it back on D.
Jason Fraser
Tue, 2017-04-18 14:27
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Impressive
Two people (Berry and Bisang) have achieved Berry on 9 completions and Hadrian's double on 19 completions.
The standout is Maya who did it with just 4 completions!
Trevor Stocki
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:43
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metric or imperial?
is the unit Berry imperial or metric?
if metric.. then a kiloberry would exist (1000 berrys)???
(sorry had to ask.. goofy physicist brain). :-)
One could then use it in statements like the league as a whole has attained (obtained?) 1 kBerry.
Christopher Keates
Tue, 2017-04-18 13:51
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Metric.
The player closest to 1 decaberry is Tervor Ryan who needs 3 more thrown drops and 4 more drops (doable). Given play time and league statistics, we can also calculate how many Berrys the league generates over time as measured in kBh.
EDIT: my B, Hadrian can drop it 4 times over the last 2 games to rack up 1 decaberry, which is a much smaller hill to climb than Trevor Ryan.
Carrie-Anne Whyte
Tue, 2017-04-18 14:11
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Hilarious!
Thank you all for clarifying the Berry...that was amazing!
Christopher Keates
Tue, 2017-04-18 14:47
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I was just talking about it with someone...
I think I found the best way to summarize it: An S.Berry is a bit like self-congratulatory slapstick comedy. You need to cut well, score, move the frisbee and play good D. But you also need to barf the disk all over the field. Most importantly, you have to pat yourself on the back for a job well done.
Laura Chambers ...
Tue, 2017-04-18 14:28
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this thread...
Is the s.berry of all threads.
Justine Price
Tue, 2017-04-18 22:51
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which means..
...which means that this thread encompasses all that is good and terrible in Parity forum posts: a witty intro, a compliment to at least one specific player, backed up by stats, digs deeper for more supportive stats, too many stats so eyes begin to glaze over, references to former posts in order to understand what is being mocked, and crossing the line in heckling of a player(s). So, yes, this would be a Thread Berry. The Full Thread Berry would include an algorithm suggested in order to preserve the integrity of the analysis, most likely proposed by Owen coz that guy wants all the berries.
Stacey Wowchuk
Wed, 2017-04-19 09:31
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All that is missing ...
Is some weird ASCII art so we can bring this whole Berry discussion to the next level.
Scott Higgins
Wed, 2017-04-19 09:59
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Ask and ye shall receive
http://imgur.com/o8NEwgI
Yes it is, Google it.
Christopher Keates
Wed, 2017-04-19 10:23
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An actual Berry...
... would go here if the forum handled fixed width text and line spacing gracefully, but it doesn't. Also, I can't delete the post, as the delete link 404's for me every time.
So this is a placeholder where a really funny joke should be, but isn't.
Chris Sullivan
Wed, 2017-04-19 14:23
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a Belanger
I had a Belanger this week. I did not personally advance farther than the disc on offence.
also
what is it called when every turnover you throw is your spouse's fault (no reason, just asking)
Sina Dee
Wed, 2017-04-19 14:50
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Doesn't Justine call that
Doesn't Justine call that sullying oneself? I could be wrong.
Sebastien Belanger
Wed, 2017-04-19 21:22
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Let it be on the record that
Let it be on the record that I pulled a Craig Anderson this week by running a bearkly cut for a point :-p
Alessandro Cola...
Wed, 2017-04-19 22:21
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On purpose, or were you lost?
On purpose, or were you lost?
Chris Sullivan
Fri, 2017-04-21 14:05
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I believe the cut refers to
I believe the cut refers to the 1970s ultimate stylings of the University of Berkeley and not as you seem to think, actual bears. Bearkly????
Likewise, the Stanford offence does not refer to Stan or even Standing around.
Owen Lumley
Fri, 2017-04-21 14:40
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?
Did Cal Lahan play for Bearkly?
Christopher Keates
Fri, 2017-04-21 14:48
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A bearkley cut.
Craig Anderson often actually cuts like this, and defenders react in exactly the same way like all the time.