How do you enter the stats for...

Submitted by Heather McCabe on Thu, 2017-03-09 17:46

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Stats keeping "What would you do" question (would love to make a survey but instead will sift through the responses of OCUA forum land)

When someone gets a stall down, how would you enter it in to the stats?
I enter it is a ThrowAway for OPlayer (the frisbee needs to leave their hands some how), and I feel inclined to give the D to the mark DPlayer. 

Also along the same lines, how to enter handblocks...same as above? 

Are handblocks and stall downs the same? I don't want to follow this white rabbit too far down the rabbit hole of "when does the mark get credit for bad throws and turnovers vs upfield defence" but my mind is starting to spiral.


 

Justine Price

Thu, 2017-03-09 18:52

I would enter a stall down as a "throwaway" by the offensive player.

I would enter a handblock as a "throw away" by the offensive player, then credit "D" to the defensive player who got the handblock.

At least this is what I did with a split second to make a decision before action ensued in each case.

Alessandro Cola...

Thu, 2017-03-09 18:58

I've always credited the marker for a D on either a stall or a handblock. In either case, adding the D doesn't take money away from anyone else. Also, they both probably go to the person with the most impact on the outcome. 

 

(Yes, I think this because I'm very rarely in a position to get a downfield D.)

Christopher Keates

Thu, 2017-03-09 19:10

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lunhlXMe5_sefD6Dy9OCreQxMtEi2mzD...

But it looks like these two cases aren't talked about! I've always agreed with Justine's interpretation (stall down is a function of a good team D as much as a good mark, handblock is a good read on a throw by the mark and is rewarded). I also agree with Al's rationale (awarding a D in either case rewards success and doesn't punish anyone).

Guiding principal of statkeeping:

WHEN ALL ELSE FAILS, ERR ON THE SIDE OF REWARDING SUCCESS, NOT PUNISHING FAILURES

Statkeeping should be encouraging and not punitive, so no matter how you judge the circumstance, try and keep this in mind.